For more than a dozen years, the Stack Overflow Podcast has been exploring what it means to be a developer and how the art and practice of software programming is changing our world. From Rails to React, from Java to Node.js, we host important conversations and fascinating guests that will help you understand how technology is made and where it’s headed. Hosted by Ben Popper, Cassidy Williams, and Ceora Ford, the Stack Overflow Podcast is your home for all things code.

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        &lt;p&gt;Ryan is joined by Coder’s Rob Whiteley to chat about why tokenmaxxing isn’t proving real value and just triggering Goodhart’s Law, how release speed and PR merges can help you measure agentic outcomes with or without a human-in-the-loop, and what the democratization of skills means for junior developers and the talent pipeline.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Episode notes:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://github.com/coder&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Coder&lt;/a&gt; is a self-hosted platform that lets you securely run cloud development environments and AI coding agents on your own internal infrastructure.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Rob on &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/rwhiteley/&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Today’s shoutout goes to an Unsung Hero badge winner, user &lt;a href=&quot;https://stackoverflow.com/users/6385640/red-wave&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Red.Wave&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;See Privacy Policy at &lt;a href=&quot;https://art19.com/privacy&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://art19.com/privacy&lt;/a&gt; and California Privacy Notice at &lt;a href=&quot;https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;<br />
      

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